just my thinking,,, but you're right, both Honda and Toyota have had major publisity around their recalls but how unusual is it for a major manufacture(especially the honour bound japs) to come out and say thay have a fault . there is a book out, that lists major cover ups, one of which is ford's decision not to recall ford pintos to carry out a $2.50 replacement of the rear bumper bracket which was over long and Could in the event of a rear ender puncture the fuel tank and crisp the occupants . fords thinking was it was cheaper to pay out on the few unfortunates that got toasted, rather than the sure fire expense of having to replace all the brackets..not the first or the last no doubt..mike